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Hey Nancy,

I had Bordetella and pneumonia as well, I also put Q Fever or Coxiella burnetti as a potential pathogen since it has symptoms such as non-productive coughing and general fever as well, however it does have gastrointestinal symptoms as well, so I don't know if we want to put it as a potential pathogen. Another potential pathogen my be Psittacosis, I saw that the symptoms of this were quiet similar to Jules' however pneomonia is present in patients with this, but we can still use at as a potential pathogen. This being said, should question 1 then focus heavily on Bordetella because all the symptoms that Jules presents matches up with Bordetella, and the one symptom (clear lungs) seems to be the deciding factor. I was thinking we might have a large section on Bordetella and then have a small section on the other potential pathogens and explain why they may not be the best diagnosis for Jules' symptoms.

What do you guys think? Neil

NeilRayChaudhuri (talk)02:14, 21 January 2015

Hey Neil, I agree, Bordetella should perhaps be our focus, but the other illnesses you brought up were interesting as well. Yeah, that clear lungs trait was so tricky eh? Everything I found I ended up dismissing because of the lungs. I'm not sure about Q Fever either, is it safe for us to assume that any symptoms not listed in the case were not present? If so, we can rule it out. I think Psittacosis would be a great thing to include within whatever section we write on pneumonia eh?

Hey how about this: we can all look at #1 answers and try to change and transform the group wiki entry into something cohesive? And just save it after we make any changes and post here about the changes? I think the hardest part will probably be diving in! I know in my feedback it was the rest of the questions that needed "meat". What do you guys think? PS. I wonder if our last partner has found this discussion board?

Nancy

NancyAttalla (talk)05:18, 21 January 2015

Hey Nancy that sounds like a good idea, do you think we should assign deadlines to each of these transformations?

NeilRayChaudhuri (talk)18:34, 21 January 2015

Yeah sounds good, though I'm a little worried that our other group members may not know about them in time? I'm flexible, whatever times are good for you guys. But I guess Neil and I can get started on question 1/2????

NancyAttalla (talk)23:15, 21 January 2015

Hey Nancy sounds good, let's target to maybe have 1 and 2 by the end of tomorrow, I'll probably be inputing my thoughts tomorrow afternoon, does that sound okay?

NeilRayChaudhuri (talk)00:51, 22 January 2015
 
 

I've finally found this place! Sorry for the late-ness. I'm deficient when it comes to Connect.

I think combining the answers is a good start, but what should we do with those that are very far off?

MartaMroczek (talk)07:24, 22 January 2015
 
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SulmiLee (talk)01:02, 22 January 2015

Oops sorry I didn't see the other posts.. I'll look at the changes you guys made and get started on #3 asap!!

SulmiLee (talk)01:54, 22 January 2015

I guess I'll do #4 then? I'll try to finish it on Friday/early Saturday and give us a chance to make edits.

MartaMroczek (talk)07:27, 22 January 2015

Also, are we all just going to post into the wiki as we go? Or do you guys want to start a google doc? I think a google doc would be nice for the comment features so that we can give input into each others answers, based on the input we got with our own submissions. Let me know what you guys think.

MartaMroczek (talk)07:32, 22 January 2015

I think this is a great idea! Let's start a google doc and post everything there first. My email is esleelj @gmail.com

SulmiLee (talk)07:36, 22 January 2015
 

I'll finish it by end of Friday too! We're writing it down on "Write Collaborative Answer Here" section right? Also, are we just making a wiki page or should we do some other thing like prezi/presentation/video?

SulmiLee (talk)07:34, 22 January 2015

Ignore the first part, I think Marta's idea of google doc is better :)

SulmiLee (talk)07:36, 22 January 2015

Hey everyone! I've made the google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s0ZsEkpmW_D0LPgrFsJhRj3ae2oDSnvuRlXCM6PHTgw/edit?usp=sharing

Also, I'm wondering the same thing as Eden - how should we present our stuff with other forms of media? I made a table for my own question 4... but my feedback was that it lacked detail. D:

MartaMroczek (talk)07:48, 22 January 2015

Thanks Marta for making the google doc! Where can I find the feedback??

SulmiLee (talk)07:54, 22 January 2015

Hey Guys! I love the table you made Marta! Its so efficient! I think it would be a great idea to include something similar in our group answer, perhaps a "Summary" for number 4, with paragraph responses explaining it as well, in order to meet the profs comment you stated, "lacked detail", how does that sound?

And if you guys are going to be editing this afternoon, I'll be watching the google doc and making small changes until around 4 when I'm out of class and can really get to work!

Thanks for making the Google doc, but I think its "View only" right now so we can't see feedback or change it. You can change this by pressing the top right button "share" and making it editable by those with the link.

Hey one more thing, I'm a little worried that perhaps the profs wont be able to see progress if we're doing it on the google doc? So maybe we should post the new version in the group post every night? Sorry for the long post! Thanks y'all! Woohoo

NancyAttalla (talk)19:51, 22 January 2015

Yeah I'm thinking of doing a table with a brief paragraph as well. Or i can help out with question 3 so the detail is in that and then the results explained in table format for question 4. I'm on my way to Woodward right now to take out a clinical microbio book to get some better insight as I found online the tests are explained vaguely.

I fixed the google doc. You can all now edit it. We can make our progress visible in the comments of the google doc, or create another thread here to try to guide each other?

MartaMroczek (talk)21:01, 22 January 2015

I just put in a section about Bordetella, a combination of all of our information. I put in comments. I think comments will be easiest.

NancyAttalla (talk)00:05, 23 January 2015
 

Hi guys, I left some comment on the google doc so please comment on that as well. Also, I saw that there are two diseases that you focused on- Bordetella and Psittacosis. Are these the only ones we're going to mention? Or are we putting in other diseases as well?

We had Streptococcus pneumonia, Mycobacterium tuberculosis, Haemophilus influenzae and Coxiella burnetti in our individual responses. As we said before, we could just briefly touch on the others and focus heavily on Bordetella (which Nancy had already done a fantastic job on thanks!). I don't think we need to include everything but some are good to mention; for example we all had Streptococcus pneumonia in our individual answers for #1. What do you guys think?

I'll be working on #3 today and will be updating the google doc as I do it!

SulmiLee (talk)20:32, 23 January 2015

Maybe just focus on the top ~3, with B. pertussis being the most likely. We can mention the others briefly but point out why they're less likely?

MartaMroczek (talk)21:35, 23 January 2015

That sounds good!

SulmiLee (talk)23:34, 23 January 2015

agreed :)

NancyAttalla (talk)23:47, 23 January 2015

Alright, looks like we've just the last question to go! woohoo 11 more hours! lol

NancyAttalla (talk)21:10, 24 January 2015