Talk:The Fight For Democracy in Hong Kong

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Discussion: The Fight For Democracy in Hong Kong022:16, 30 July 2019

Discussion

Hi,

May I ask in which academic or official source that you have found claimed Hong Kong was indeed a country autonomous from China? Also, you have defined democracy as granting the right to citizens to vote for a leader that best represents them and it also means that citizens get to enjoy freedom of speech and equal rights. I am wondering how does the recent protest against the extradition bill relate to a fight for democracy? As to my understanding the biggest controversies about the extradition bill are the erosion of Hong Kong's independent judiciary system and the risk of fugitives facing unfair trails should they be extradited to China.

LikHangWong (talk)17:48, 1 August 2019

Hi!

I believe you have misunderstood what I said about Hong Kong being autonomous, and I apologize for I should have been more clear in my opening sentence. What I meant to say was that it is a common misconception that people see Hong Kong as being completely autonomous, however, this is not entirely the case.

As well, you are correct about the anti-extradition bill being a huge erosion to Hong Kong's independent judiciary system. You mentioned that Hong Kong citizens are at risk for "facing unfair trials should they be extradited to China", which is true as well. How democracy comes into place with the extradition bill is when this bill trickles down into the lives of the citizens and what happens when they do face their judiciary system, which intersects into their everyday lives (such as having freedom of speech -- we see censorship as a huge thing in China (https://www.wired.com/story/us-companies-help-censor-internet-china/)). If this bill passes, then this 'one country, two systems' way of governing will be tarnished, which is a system that has been commonly accepted as semi-autonomous enough for Hong Kong and to be somewhat democratic. Like I mentioned, this governing system means that Hong Kong is able to have their own head of state, which is elected by a 1,200 member electoral college, and with the people of Hong Kong being eligible to vote over 18 for their respective constituencies. Not only that, there may be the possibility of China's gradual move of wanting to have more say in Hong Kong's political system.

If you would like, here are some links that you can read about (there currently aren't any scholarly articles on the topic!): https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/17/suspension-of-hong-kongs-china-extradition-bill-and-what-it-means.html https://www.vox.com/world/2019/7/21/20702812/hong-kong-protests-extradition-bill-independence-police-carrie-lam-beijing https://globalnews.ca/news/5493624/hong-kongs-extradition-bill-protests/

Thanks for your comment - I will take it into consideration to further refine my intersectional analysis.

GlendaCheung (talk)23:52, 2 August 2019
 

Discussion

Hi,

I found that the way you structured your page to be very effective and concise. The introduction to democracy was clearly communicated and in sufficient detail. The topic you chose is also very interesting. Although I do not know much about it myself, I feel that as an outsider to this topic, it was easy to follow and achieve greater understanding on the topic. The main area I think that you can work on to perfect your page would be to certainly add more to your intersectional analysis, but also focusing on having a bit more detail on how it ties in with the protests and history of democracy in Hong Kong.

Great job!

ZinaidaKhan (talk)01:37, 31 July 2019

Discussion: The Fight For Democracy in Hong Kong

Hi!

Great topic that relates closely to all the news regarding the protest in Hong Kong right now. Personally, as someone whose family is from Hong Kong and Mainland China, this topic is extremely touchy and sensitive to discuss in my family. I appreciate how you were able to present the topic in a neutral sense, allowing the readers to take their own stance on this whole protest by reading the facts presented in your Wiki. I also really enjoyed your part talking about the history of democracy in Hong Kong, and gave insight on how Hong Kong was when they were a British colony. I would love to see a little more detail in the intersectional part of your Wiki, maybe in terms of how democracy is intertwined with age (Older Hong Kong citizens versus College students), social class (The citizens of poorer parts of Kowloon versus the richer citizens of Hong Kong Island) and more!

Overall, great topic and Wiki!

FionYi (talk)22:16, 30 July 2019