Science talk:Math Exam Resources/Courses/MATH220/December 2010/Question 05 (a)

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Countability definition and S -> T -> Z -> N419:31, 5 May 2015

Countability definition and S -> T -> Z -> N

Technically, it is sufficient that the map to the natural numbers is injective (to account for finite sets, which are countable).

I think one sentence (instead of a proof) is sufficient for S=T. The trick is that mapping T to Z is sufficient, even though the definition of countability specifically talks about N. This should be made more clear.

Bernhard Konrad (talk)07:37, 29 April 2015

Honestly I can't tell what the actual 'question' is here. This is almost by definition isn't it?

I'm sure that when they do this in class they must know that Z injects into N. So what really is the point of contention here? I wasn't sure but I figured it must be showing that S and T are equal right?

CarmenBruni (talk)22:10, 29 April 2015

Sorry, I still don't like this.

The definition of countability is still wrong (injective vs bijective) at several place, in particular the first hint. I would only show injection of S->T->Z, and then remark that it is, in fact, a bijection. Don't show the Z->N bijection, that's just confusing. A short sentence stating this as an easy fact would be sufficient.

Bernhard Konrad (talk)22:28, 2 May 2015

Not sure if this is better or not but I gave it a shot. Let me know what you think (Alternatively if you want to write it and send me an email - I'll get back to it asap)

CarmenBruni (talk)21:07, 4 May 2015

Just had to change it lol - FINE... =)

CarmenBruni (talk)19:31, 5 May 2015