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Hi Everyone,

I have started this introduction section by reading the Smiler and Epstein paper. I have written up the measures in the subsection on trait measures for the first construct (support and adherence to cultural gender norms). However, the remaining measures in the subsections on ideology measures, the gender behaviour measures, and the gender socialization measures still need to be mentioned for this first construct. Furthermore, I summarized the second construct (gender role conflict and stress). Finally, the entire third construct (relative position of men and women in society) still needs to be addressed.

Carli

CarliSzabo (talk)22:04, 13 July 2013

May I move your summary and incorporated into the last section of introduction?

I feel like if we have summary for each page of the introduction section, it might become repetitive.

YoungihnAmy (talk)01:14, 16 July 2013

and do you think it might be proper to mention the article by Lippa, Richard and Connelly, Sharon since we are attempting to replicate their findings?

YoungihnAmy (talk)02:20, 16 July 2013

I think this section is just supposed to be a broad overview of the history of measuring gender to give the reader a starting point for our project. I think specifics of previous gender diagnosticity should go later in the introduction.

AmyPrangnell (talk)23:58, 16 July 2013

I also agree that it is little too detailed for the purpose of our report and for this section.

so how about writing an overview. Just mentioning the theories by different researchers.

maybe starting from(I'm referring to the textbook) the theory where masculinity and femininity was measured as a single personality dimension.

And then the development of the concept of androgyny, (completely separating into two independence dimensions)

and then different theories which came about after realizing that masculinity and femininity are not completely separate

and then leading to the development of Gender Diagnosticity(Lippa,1990) which we are replicating.

Textbook seem to condensed and comprehensive overview in chapter 6, under "The Search for Androgyny"

YoungihnAmy (talk)00:24, 17 July 2013

I think that looks good but the part about actually mentioning gender diagnosticity should be saved for the next section of the introduction.

AmyPrangnell (talk)00:36, 17 July 2013
 

I agree that this may be too detailed. However, the Smiler & Epstein paper is quite extensive in explaining the measures they reviewed, and it was quite difficult interpreting each measure. I attempted to summarize the measures by providing context on what they measure as well as what findings they have achieved in the past. If I didn't mention these aspects of the measures then I was afraid of it being too generic and not informative. For example, if I had just said that Smiler & Epstein measure the construct of "support and adherence to cultural gender norms" by using trait measures, then this provides no background information on what trait measures are and what the outcomes of these measures were. With that said, I can see how the length of this section might become too long if we mention all of the measures.

CarliSzabo (talk)19:45, 23 July 2013
 
 

I added the summary component (which briefly touched on gender diagnosticity) as a way to transition to the next part of the introduction - the gender diagnosticity section. However, I am definitely open to it being moved to the end of the introduction as a way of concluding the intro :)

Also, with regards to your comment about the Lippa et al. paper, I personally think it would be best to mention it in the next part of the intro (the gender diagnosticity section) instead of this section.

CarliSzabo (talk)19:28, 23 July 2013

I personally think a version of the summary that was written could make a nice final to the introduction so we can also lighten this first section. However, if everyone else thinks it should stay that I am also fine with that.

AmyPrangnell (talk)02:48, 24 July 2013
 
 

Hi all, I think this is a good start. It seems to be relying a lot on the Smiler article. To get more of a range we could search for more sources and look up the original articles that Smiler cites and reference them.

JaimieVeale (talk)03:41, 24 July 2013

I was just looking through the Smiler article and since we are mentioning the articles he cited won't we have to add references for all of the original articles?

AmyPrangnell (talk)03:44, 26 July 2013

It would be preferable if you can access the original articles, look at them, give your own interpretation of what they say, and cite them.

And of course be on the lookout for other references that Smiler might have missed.

JaimieVeale (talk)05:02, 26 July 2013

Thanks for your help Jaimie and I will go about looking through the originals. It also seems that everyone is in agreement to incorporate the summary into the final part of the introduction so I am going to do that.

AmyPrangnell (talk)16:11, 26 July 2013
 

Is everyone okay if I look for the original articles and as Jaimie suggested rework it a bit to use our own interpretations?

AmyPrangnell (talk)16:34, 26 July 2013

That sounds good to me! If there's any you can't find you could let us know and someone on here might be able to locate it.

JaimieVeale (talk)18:43, 26 July 2013

Hi guys, here is my rough draft for the first portion of the history, I will continue to finish the second portion of the draft once I finish all the research. I changed a fair amount once I read through the original articles so feel free to change/add anything.

AmyPrangnell (talk)17:29, 29 July 2013
 
 

Hi guys, as I was finishing reading through the original articles that Smiler mentioned many of the studies measured gender but not necessarily as a personality trait. Some looked at socialization and beliefs about gender roles and gender role strain. Do we still include studies that don't completely match up with measuring gender as a personality trait?

AmyPrangnell (talk)03:37, 1 August 2013

Yes, you're right, we don't want to make it too broad, but what you've done here seems quite contained and relevant to the topic, so no, I don't think we should remove it.

JaimieVeale (talk)04:58, 1 August 2013