Hi!

sounds good, yeah I hope you guys dont mind I add in little comments/questions :)

NancyAttalla (talk)05:15, 27 March 2015

awesome. i blended some of your parts into my revised version Nancy.

I just wanted to focus on the symptoms experienced by Rick and not speculate about the cerebral and pulmonary edema? Or do you think I should include them cause I can.

WaldenCheung (talk)05:34, 27 March 2015

Hey Alysha thanks for removing repetitive information in the combined answer for question 2!

On top of adding the lymphatics, I'm also going to merge some of the sections. Right now we have 2 sections describing tunics so im just going to merge them into distinctive paragraphs!

DesmondHui (talk)06:12, 27 March 2015
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I made a bunch of changes in question 2 to merge things and make things flow coherently. Could you double check my work again Alysha! Thanks!!

DesmondHui (talk)06:42, 27 March 2015

Hey guys, I noticed you guys are also putting down what you guys inputted into the final document. Aside from the lymphatics its kind of hard and messy to distinguish what Alysha did and what I did. So I'm just saying this now because I dont want to make it messy but I also don't want you guys to think I didnt contribute haha. I guess that's what happens when 5 people are doing 3 questions :(

Also I'm not well versed with coding so I will have my references on my parts listed as (author, year) to make things more simple. I honestly do not think they it matters if we reference it like wiki style or not. The last time Nancy and I worked on a case question we left it like that format and we were still able to achieve a high grade. I say this now because in my last case some group members had called me out that I "didn't do the references" just because I didn't code it like wiki-style.

DesmondHui (talk)06:58, 27 March 2015

Oh I never did wiki style and haven't had an issue. I have a reference manager so I just did APA. I think it is the easiest way to go. I will read over question 2. I wouldn't worry about people not thinking you contributed. Everybody should read all the messages and it clearly said you were going to go over my section and add lymphatics (if you still did). Let me know if you want me to organize references or something for this section.

AlyshaRusk (talk)22:39, 27 March 2015

Yup I agree with APA style! Yup sounds good Alysha, I'll work on the references tonight but could you double check question 2 for me tonight or tomorrow to see if anything is missing or awry. Thanks!! :D

DesmondHui (talk)23:01, 27 March 2015

Hey I am almost done. Please see my comments give me about ten more minutes. No rush tho. So far mainly just minor changes in sentence structure.

AlyshaRusk (talk)23:28, 27 March 2015
 

Okay just another thought I think endothelial cells should be separate like vascular system and lymphatics. Also maybe we should move that discussion to the end of the section because endothelial cells are found in both the vascular system and lymphatic system.

AlyshaRusk (talk)23:34, 27 March 2015

um i know the coding so i can work with the references

WaldenCheung (talk)01:12, 28 March 2015

hey alysha i dont think we should include lymphatic system, i understand that endothelial cells are found in the lymphatic system but I don't see or have any papers how damage to the lymphatic system correlates to rick's symptoms. if you have any studies relating the pathophysiology to the damage in the lympathic, it could work

also if possible can we copy the google doc to the wiki? it'll be a lot easier to work with

WaldenCheung (talk)01:18, 28 March 2015

Not precisely damage, but can we correlate inflammation/headache/abdominal pain/ so forth with changes and involvement of the lymphatic system? or is that too far of a stretch?

DesmondHui (talk)01:40, 28 March 2015

i think that's stretching it a bit too much, but if you have any articles supporting it that yeaa. but the review i posted in this convo in 2007, said lymphatic may be involved but there was no evidence

WaldenCheung (talk)01:47, 28 March 2015
 

Oh Walden I actually meant we could've just kept it simple without the coding. But if you'd like to do it like that then go on ahead and thank you!

I've also added a new reference for question 2 in the part about lymphatic vessel movement. Here is the reference:

Barrett K.E., Boitano S, Barman S.M., Brooks H.L. (2012). Chapter 31. Blood as a Circulatory Fluid & the Dynamics of Blood & Lymph Flow. In Barrett K.E., Boitano S, Barman S.M., Brooks H.L. (Eds), Ganong's Review of Medical Physiology, 24e. Retrieved March 27, 2015 from http://accessmedicine.mhmedical.com.ezproxy.library.ubc.ca/content.aspx?bookid=393&Sectionid=39736777.

DesmondHui (talk)01:46, 28 March 2015

kk thanks =)

WaldenCheung (talk)01:51, 28 March 2015

Wasn't sure if someone was doing question 1, so I put in a general answer, though I did want to know if any of you got any feedback on question 1. I omitted lab findings as both Alysha and I got feedback to say its not usually included. For now its a simple list, but when we write it into wiki I will make it into a nice looking chart!

NancyAttalla (talk)02:15, 28 March 2015

PS So we're putting our references into Wiki form?

NancyAttalla (talk)02:31, 28 March 2015

yupp!

WaldenCheung (talk)04:06, 28 March 2015

Hey guys I put most of our stuff in the wiki, you guys can edit on the google doc still and just update me, I'll be busy till around 6 pm tomorrow. But I can help with the editing, all our references are in wiki form now =)

WaldenCheung (talk)08:22, 28 March 2015

Sounds good, thanks for the help and contribution Walden!

DesmondHui (talk)08:31, 28 March 2015
 
 
 

Thanks Nancy for inputting Question 1! Yeah i got the same remark about the lab findings. Are there anymore signs that we need to include then?

DesmondHui (talk)06:13, 28 March 2015
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I touched briefly in my own case study, and he didn't comment or care... lol

NancyAttalla (talk)02:27, 28 March 2015

Hey guys

I'll have my stuff up by tomorrow afternoon, sorry fr no input yet, I've been swamped with work from other classes this week. Thanks for understanding.

Neil

NeilRayChaudhuri (talk)02:50, 28 March 2015

No problem man!

NancyAttalla (talk)03:30, 28 March 2015

Yup Neil its okay. End of semester is coming up, not surprised in being swamped haha. Just get everything in preferably before tomorrow evening so we can proofread before deadline!

DesmondHui (talk)06:12, 28 March 2015

Hey guys, my part is up

NeilRayChaudhuri (talk)22:50, 28 March 2015

ok ill format it! thanks neil

WaldenCheung (talk)01:10, 29 March 2015