Talk:The Subordination of Women on University Campuses

I greatly enjoyed this wiki page. It is interesting and informative. The summary is also very nice, though I think you could include the sections of the wiki page in the summary as points that will be addressed in the wiki page to almost give the reader a heads up on what is to come when you keep scrolling down the page. Also, the sentence in the summary that talks of women's risks and the "to a greater extent....sexual assault" could be rephrased--both women's safety is at risk AND sexual assault is at risk...it seems strange to compare them and say that one of them is "greater."

Hi, Great wiki page you definitely have an interesting subject. I would be careful with making sure your arguments are from substantial resources as some of the claims seem a bit more like generalized opinions. Also unless you change your title to be more specific I would expand the argument to more than just the Greek community as right now the argument does not seem substantial enough as when reading the page it appears to me that the argument is "frats can host parties this makes them superior to women and causes sexual assault." However, there are definitely more organizations and places that sexual assault and inequality takes place on campus. It can also be addressed that any UBC student can enter many fraternity parties meaning it is a campus wide issue. I do agree that it seems to be a more common issue within these types of parties, however I think you need some type of actual statistics to back up your argument.

Hi, I really enjoyed your wiki, it does a good job of bringing relevant attention to a prevalent topic. I think it would be beneficial if you distinguished between universities with a lot of Greek life, and universities without it, because it seems like a large portion of your focus on what creates sexual assault culture and I'm curious if there are other things instigating it as well. I think it would also be helpful to distinguish between universities in different countries, and to mention other arenas with high rates of sexual assault.

Hey,

I really love your topic and it fits perfectly in the current situation. It is also very relatable since we all are university students and have been exposed to such similar situations. I felt that you've done an amazing job in terms of content - it is straight to the point. You've chosen the subheadings wisely. I personally feel it'll be nice to have an "introduction" rather than a "summary". In terms of layout, its very organised and reflects that you've put in good effort. Also, I really liked how you connected your topic with this recent documentary trailer.

Goodluck with the rest of the assignment!

Hi there,

I personally love this topic as I think it is so crucial for it to be recognized more often. I really like the way you laid your page out and the organizing you did it really shows you put time into this! An extra source of reading you could do if you haven't done so already that could make your post even stronger is the controversy within the AMS elections this year and the IFC (Inter-Fraternity Counsel) and the controversy on the topic of sexual assault within the greek system, I think this could strengthen your post even more! I like how you added our university into your post and it is a problem that often goes unnoticed - that in order for sorority members to socialize with other greeks, it takes place predominately within a fraternity house. One small area for improvement I would suggest is maybe making the dancing section a little bit more formal, I know it is difficult to do so because nothing about 'grinding' is formal, but if you can manage a way it would make this post absolutely incredible! Can't wait to see your final result!

Hi there, I think you have chosen a really interesting topic that is very important in light of current events. On the UBC campus recently there have been talks and debates related to sexual assault within the Greek System here at UBC. Information such as this needs to be bought to the public in order to understand both the severity of the situation as well as the need to address the systematic issues that put women at risk to these forms of assault. Especially because the number of women attending North American University institutions this is an even more pressing issue. Where you have discussed the long term impacts on women and stated the need for a cultural change whereby the are not subordinate to men is very interesting. I think it would also be valuable to consider if the reporting systems are competent to make the victims of sexual assault feel comfortable to go to. This is crucial because the Greek System is a very "gossipy" community and the confidentiality of victims is crucial. It is important that they feel comfortable to take action where they have been assaulted.

Hi Saphia,

I think you chose a great topic that is extremely relevant to the current situations on UBC campus and among other campuses as well. I would caution you in mentioning that sororities are prohibited by the university to hold parties because this is not the case. Typically, sororities are unable to host parties because it is a guideline outlined by their international headquarters. Additionally, I understand that you are making an argument from a feminist perspective, but I would urge you to try not to make over-generalizations, especially when it comes to issues like why women may not report sexual assault because in my opinion this is a case to case reasoning with no specific answers.

It would be extremely valuable for you to explore other aspects of campus that may subordinate men from women like sports leagues, and other clubs, housing, or success in certain faculties. Likewise, if you want to focus only on the Greek community then I would recommend tailoring your title to better fit your topic.

Additionally, if I were you I would look into the resources offered on campus for sexual assault victims. Besides SASC and UBC Counselling, there is also a service (I forget the name) located in Orchard (college part) where they offer sexual assault counselling and will help to investigate sexual assault cases and take appropriate actions after. I think it would also be valuable to look into how sororities and fraternities specifically may respond to sexual assault, or if they have a system in place to deal with these types of issues. Many times when we are talking about sexual assault we are looking at the very black and white aspects of what it is and how it plays, but there is a large grey area that remains unexplored, and I think there is a lot of value in reporting these facts and statistics.

I think there is a lot of learning and value that could come out of your page, and I am looking forward to seeing how you move forward. Good luck with the rest of the assignment!

Mattea Tsang

Hello, Thank you for your informative post. I felt this was a great topic because it is very relevant and relatable in terms of us all going to university. I felt the comment you made on grinding was very accurate and how women are looked down upon for dancing/sleeping with multiple men whereas for men it is socially acceptable. I have not really encountered a male being rejected and go through whatever means to get the female, but I have heard on the news many cases related. I do agree with the subordination of women on campus and how Sororities can't host parties but fraternities can. I felt your layout was very organized and the video was related as well.

Good morning!

The topic you have outlined within your wiki is extremely interesting and also incredibly relevant given the recent controversy between the Inter-Fraternity Council and AMS on UBC Campus. If you are not familiar with this, I would highly recommend reading some articles surrounding the issue as I believe you could strengthen the prevalence of women's subordination within the greek community by touching on the organizational problems being brought to light by the debate! Furthermore, as sexual assault is an ongoing problem that continues to plague UBC, perhaps you could include some of the statistics and services offered to women who have been impacted within our community, in order to further underline the weight of this issue and present the steps being taken to address it on University campuses.

You're off to a really great start, and I look forward to reading your final product!